ChoiBoy i have a question about Daigo's Guile can you help? please? ;) - Forums Forum Jump: Please select one: -------------------- Private Messages User Control Panel Who's Online Search Forums Forums Home -------------------- Discussion Groups-- Fighting Game Discussion-- General Discussion-- Strategy & TacticsThe Dojo-- Tournament Results-- Tournaments & Events-- Evolution 2002 Suggestions & Discussion-- Evolution 2002 Player Hookup & LogisticsShoryuken Media Studios-- Fan Art Gallery-- Fan Fiction Library-- Image MishmashApex-- APEX Questions and Feedback-- Atlantic North: Discussion & Matchmaking-- Atlantic South: Discussion & Matchmaking-- Midwest: Discussion & Matchmaking-- Northwest: Discussion & Matchmaking-- Pac-North: Discussion & Matchmaking-- Pac-South: Discussion & Matchmaking-- Southwest: Discussion & MatchmakingTalkback Forum-- Domination 101Administration-- Headlines-- Suggestions and Feedback • Show a Printable Version • Email This Page to Someone! • Receive updates to this thread • Forums > Discussion Groups > Strategy & Tactics > ChoiBoy i have a question about Daigo's Guile can you help? please? ;) AuthorThread ElmerPud Sloppy MeatEater Posts: 601 Registered: Aug 2000 Location: Posted: 12:31:2000 12:15 PM in a bunch of forums there was talk about how daigo's guile is very very aggressive using back roundhouse, low forwards, and crouch jabs to pressure the opponent along w/ jumping short i also he made good use of guiles dash at what times did he use his dash, alot of times i try dashing to get up close and i pay for it..i play guile and just can't seem to be good at all when i'm playing aggressive when i play him i usually play turtle guile but i wanna play him offensivly..here's my prob..alot of times i try to pressure w/ back roundhouse they usually block it and then i go for another normal...usually low forward or another back roundhouse or if i'm charged i go for a sonic boom....if i go for a low forward im usually hit b4 it even comes out..if i go for another back roundhouse they see it coming and usually punish me with something...a sonic boom the usually roll through and get punished....as you can see i'm not getting ne where...could you give me some tips as to what i'm doing wrong or even give me a simple sequence daigo will do with his guile? my turtle guile is good but i don't like turtling at all..also did he do any corner traps with him ? thanx for your help...i appreciate it It seems that it's cool to be angry about nothing these dayz, I guess that's why I'm not cool :-/ <IMG SRC="http://www.gsarchives.com/neogeo_sprites/MetalSlug/MarcoHG_slashingsoldier.gif"> [This message has been edited by ElmerPud (edited 12-31-2000).] IP: Logged ChoiBoy Guest Posts: N/A Registered: Not Yet Location: Posted: 01:01:2001 12:52 AM Sounds like the opponent is just reading you and countering you appropriately. You just said the opponent hits you with something when you do low forward, counters your stand RH, and rolls through your sonic boom. Daigo's sequence involved the 3 moves I just described. No special corner traps but just good clean play. Try to mix it up if your opponent is taking out those 3 moves of yours. Wait for a roll then counter, wait for a move then forward kick it and etc. And if all else fails, you can go back to your turtle Guile. http://www.shoryuken.com/img/choisig.gif IP: Logged ElmerPud Sloppy MeatEater Posts: 601 Registered: Aug 2000 Location: Posted: 01:03:2001 08:51 AM thanx choiboy..im starting to get better with offensive..my problem was that i was mindlessly throwing out the roundhouse's and the low forwards etc.. so basically i try to use low forward and low roundhouse to counter pokes and whatnot? i also have a few more questions just out of curiosity when did daigo's guile dash or throw a sonic boom cause i heard he made good use of the dash and he didn't throw that many sonic booms..did he usually throw one after a low forward or a back roundhouse or out random to bait a roll?? did daigo punish rolls with a throw or a normal? sometimes i have problems with characters w/ annoying crossup shorts like beni..what would be the best thing to do in this situation? delay wakeup? flash kick? last one heh...did daigo walk back and forth at all w/ his guile or did he always keep charging for flash kick and boom? sorry for all the long questions but offensive stile just isn't working out for me to great and alot of people think of him as number one in the game but i was having low succes....also just a question about the japenese players in general...did any of them turtle w/ characters...thanx for your time and sorry for this ugly long post It seems that it's cool to be angry about nothing these dayz, I guess that's why I'm not cool :-/ http://www.gsarchives.com/neogeo_sprites/MetalSlug/MarcoHG_slashingsoldier.gif IP: Logged ChoiBoy Guest Posts: N/A Registered: Not Yet Location: Posted: 01:03:2001 01:54 PM Daigo walked back a lot to get a slow SB and try to follow it up. He would dash to achieve the desired distance and would also dash forward time to time to surprise opponents who were trying to close in on him. He punished rolls with low jab and forward usually. Delayed wakeup is a very good choice to use against all characters with good crossups. You can also try rolling away. Daigo walked back and forth a lot and rarely charged for a FK. http://www.shoryuken.com/img/choisig.gif IP: Logged ElmerPud Sloppy MeatEater Posts: 601 Registered: Aug 2000 Location: Posted: 01:04:2001 12:47 AM thanx alot for your response...now i think i'm understanding him more...cause i would usually charge for sonic boom or FK almost all the time...but without flashkick did he usually use low feirce as anti-air?? also did he constantly go for crossup short?? thanx a bunch It seems that it's cool to be angry about nothing these dayz, I guess that's why I'm not cool :-/ http://www.gsarchives.com/neogeo_sprites/MetalSlug/MarcoHG_slashingsoldier.gif IP: Logged Coy a mexican top player B5 Platinum Benefactor Posts: 265 Registered: Aug 2000 Location: Mexico City Posted: 01:04:2001 10:19 AM quote: Originally posted by ElmerPud: ...but without flashkick did he usually use low feirce as anti-air? I already asked him that in the past, and he told me thet Daigo does Low Fierce or Roll out when somebody jumped in. I also from time to time jump against the oponent with jumping Fierce (it's a good thing to surprise the oponent and doing something they're not expecting), but mainly I think that you should stay with what Choi said "roll and low fierce most of the time". I hope this helps. I'm trying Guile a lot since he (and Charlie) has always been my favorite character, and I'll discuss later with Choiboy about how is my Guile going (on what should I concentrate most, what did Daigo uses or abuses the most, or some help on how to use dashes, etc) but I want to test Guile really deeply before doing so (I'm actually playing him A LOT). So keep an eye open in the next days/weeks when I ask his opinion on some more things about Guile. And Choiboy, Good luck on The Van Nuys Tourney!!!! [This message has been edited by Coy (edited 01-03-2001).] IP: Logged All times are GMT. 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